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 ====Transcript====
-For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click here [http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm], or to see a video, click here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title], then here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu].
+For a rough written transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click here [http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm]. To see a video, click here and scroll the video to 1:35:00 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title]. When it is over, click here to see the rest of her talk — [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu].
 ==Further Reading==

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 ====Transcript====
-For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [[http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm|here]], or to see a video, click [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title|here], then [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu|here]
+For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click here [http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm], or to see a video, click here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title], then here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu].
 ==Further Reading==

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 ====Transcript====
-For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm|here], or to see a video, click [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title|here], then [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu|here]
+For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [[http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm|here]], or to see a video, click [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title|here], then [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu|here]
 ==Further Reading==

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 ====Transcript====
-For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [[Phobol Chang's 1999 Talk at Laughlin, Nevada|here]].
+For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm|here], or to see a video, click [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQJ7giPnGY&feature=channel_video_title|here], then [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf8LaD3pFHg&feature=relmfu|here]
 ==Further Reading==

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 ====Engelbert Wächter (66), printer====
-[[File:Witness-engelbert-wachter.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Wächter in 1998]]
+[[File:Engelbert.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Wächter in 1998]]
 I have experienced quite a few emotional moments. Once I was building the chicken coop when I observed Billy as he was walking away from the Center on the field path. I figured he was going to a contact. Shortly afterwards I heard a loud, dynamic whirring sound and thought:

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 In the summer of 1980 I was present in the Sädelegg when we were given an opportunity to record the whirring sounds of Semjase's beamship. I was standing next to Mami, in view of my father, when the whirring sounds began. They were so loud that even neighbors who lived about 4 kilometers [2.4 miles] away came to see what was going on. Mami was with her recorder in such an advantageous position to the source of the sounds that she was able to make the best recordings of all.
-[[File:Witness-methusalem-meier.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Methusalem Meier with Wendelle Stevens, 1999, from Ed Martin's book King of Travelers]]
+[[File:Witness-methusalem-meier.jpg|thumb|left|Methusalem Meier with Wendelle Stevens, 1999, from Ed Martin's book King of Travelers]]
 One year later in early August, together with several others, I observed at night a formation of six light objects on the horizon above the Bühl in the Töss Valley. Based on their unusual flight maneuvers, there was no way they could have been regular airplanes. The "show" lasted for more than half an hour and in addition to my mother, my father, my brother Atlantis and sister Gilgamesha, several other people observed the display too. The ships performed various formation flights and very unusual flight movements before some of them simply disappeared; we could still watch the others until they blended into the darkness.

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 ==Testimony from some Meier-case witnesses==
-[[File:Witness-michael-hesemann.jpg|thumb|right|Michael Hesemann]]
+[[File:Witness-michael-hesemann.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Michael Hesemann]]
 Following is an English translation of the witness-testimony section of the article by Michael Hesemann in Magazin 2000plus (Oct. 1998, vol. 10, pp. 64-71) entitled "The Meier Case: UFO Contactee Revealed?" It was extracted from the FIGU (Meier) web site.
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 In the summer of 1980 I was present in the Sädelegg when we were given an opportunity to record the whirring sounds of Semjase's beamship. I was standing next to Mami, in view of my father, when the whirring sounds began. They were so loud that even neighbors who lived about 4 kilometers [2.4 miles] away came to see what was going on. Mami was with her recorder in such an advantageous position to the source of the sounds that she was able to make the best recordings of all.
-[[File:Witness-methusalem-meier.jpg|thumb|left|Methusalem Meier with Wendelle Stevens, 1999, from Ed Martin's book King of Travelers]]
+[[File:Witness-methusalem-meier.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Methusalem Meier with Wendelle Stevens, 1999, from Ed Martin's book King of Travelers]]
 One year later in early August, together with several others, I observed at night a formation of six light objects on the horizon above the Bühl in the Töss Valley. Based on their unusual flight maneuvers, there was no way they could have been regular airplanes. The "show" lasted for more than half an hour and in addition to my mother, my father, my brother Atlantis and sister Gilgamesha, several other people observed the display too. The ships performed various formation flights and very unusual flight movements before some of them simply disappeared; we could still watch the others until they blended into the darkness.
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 ====Hans Georg Lanzendorfer (36), sociology teacher====
-[[File:Witness-hans-georg-lanzendorfer.jpg|thumb|right|Hans in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-hans-georg-lanzendorfer.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Hans in 2000]]
 Through my association with Billy I had several nighttime sightings when we were walking around in the courtyard and he pointed out the [space-] ships. In August 1987 three ships came from the west in the middle of the night. They flew over the [Meier farm-] house, hovered above it, jumped back and forth for several minutes, and finally sped high into the sky.
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 ====Bernadette Brand (49), lithographer/supervisor====
-[[File:Witness-bernadette-brand.jpg|thumb|left|Bernadette in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-bernadette-brand.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Bernadette in 2000]]
 At the very beginning, just as we were taking possession of the farm, the basement was full of water which had to be pumped out. When the job was done, Billy walked down there to see whether everything had really dried. Shortly afterward he returned and said: "There are footprints down there!" Of course, I didn't believe him and thought that it simply could be anything; but I decided to look for myself and even photographed the imprints. When I got the photos back from the store, one could see the head and neck of an extraterrestrial on one of the pictures.
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 ====Engelbert Wächter (66), printer====
-[[File:Witness-engelbert-wachter.jpg|thumb|right|Wächter in 1998]]
+[[File:Witness-engelbert-wachter.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Wächter in 1998]]
 I have experienced quite a few emotional moments. Once I was building the chicken coop when I observed Billy as he was walking away from the Center on the field path. I figured he was going to a contact. Shortly afterwards I heard a loud, dynamic whirring sound and thought:
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 ====Silvano Lehmann (37), waiter====
-[[File:Witness-silvano-lehmann.jpg|thumb|left|Silvano in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-silvano-lehmann.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Silvano in 2000]]
 I was present when four assassination attempts were made on Billy. That really made me think quite a bit.
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 ====Eva Bieri (43), secretary====
-[[File:Witness-eva-bieri.jpg|thumb|left|Eva in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-eva-bieri.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Eva in 2000]]
 Together with Billy I have seen UFOs in the night sky several times and in June of 1980 I heard the whirring sounds of the beamships. That afternoon all of those who happened to be present had driven into the Sädelegg. Billy stood about 150 meters/yards away from us to make some tape recordings of the whirring sounds for himself. We were standing on the path and heard the sounds, which were so loud that they attracted curious farmers and pedestrians in the area.
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 ====Brunhilde Koye (64), ret. export merchant====
-[[File:Witness-brunhilde-koye.jpg|thumb|left|Brunhilde Koye in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-brunhilde-koye.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Brunhilde Koye in 2000]]
 Around 5 p.m. on April 8, 1983, I glanced up to the sky while working. It was near dusk and there were many clouds in the sky when I noticed a light that was moving towards me one moment and then away from me again; it moved to the right and then to the left. I thought that this wasn’t normal, so I ran to get my binoculars which, by chance, I happened to have in my car. In the meantime Billy and several other FIGU members came out and were also observing this dancing object of light.
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 ====Freddy Kropf (38), chef====
-[[File:Witness-freddy-kropf.jpg|thumb|right|Freddy in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-freddy-kropf.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Freddy in 2000]]
 I was repairing the pavement at the Farm and wanted to briefly cordon off the freshly cemented area so that nobody would accidentally step into it.
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 While in Betswil, above Bäretswil, I was allowed to come to a contact with Billy.
-[[File:Witness-jacobus-bertschinger.jpg|thumb|left|Jacobus in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-jacobus-bertschinger.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Jacobus in 2000]]
 He instructed me to wait by my car until I got more detailed directions. I was rewarded for the long waiting period: Through the trees I could really nicely see the ship rise at the horizon, then it darted with incredible speed directly toward me. That was a spectacular show—and at night, no less! And then they [the ETs] undertook some energy burning that resulted in a shower of sparks, a splendor of color that couldn't have been more beautiful.
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 ====Guido Moosbrugger (73), ret. school principal====
-[[File:Witness-guido-moosbrugger.jpg|thumb|right|Guido in 2000]]
+[[File:Witness-guido-moosbrugger.jpg|thumb|right|145px|Guido in 2000]]
 In 1976 I saw Billy Meier's photographs for the first time, and from then on I wanted to know all about them. I asked whether I would be permitted to visit him, and then one weekend I came to see him, still in Hinwil at the time. When I was preparing to leave again, Billy invited me to stay a bit longer since he had the feeling that something was about to take place that night. Shortly afterwards I had my first UFO experience.
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 Guido Moosbrugger (73), ret. school principal
-====Additional Witnesses====
+===Additional Witnesses===
 Here are additional witnesses we know by name, some of whom we have interviewed: Elisabeth Gruber, Thomas Keller, Madeleine Brügger, Christina Gasser, Herbert Runkel, Maria Wächter, Conny Wächter, Hans Zimmermann, Billy's daughter Gilgamesha Meier, and in 1989 Kalliope, Meier's ex-wife, in her own words.
 ===The Swiss Air Force and Meier===
-[[File:Witness-erwin-murner.jpg|thumb|left|Mürner in 1998]]
+[[File:Witness-erwin-murner.jpg|thumb|left|145px|Mürner in 1998]]
 Another Meier witness is UFO researcher Erwin Mürner from Zurich. He stated to MAGAZIN 2000plus: "I have known Billy Meier since 1976.
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 Meier’s contacts in India were actually investigated on location by one of the world’s most renowned UFO researchers, Timothy Good, an English violinist with the London Symphony Orchestra, which was performing in Delhi at the time. During his stay there, by chance, a local newspaper The Statesman reported Meier’s contacts. “Not only have I seen objects from space, I have also photographed them and flown inside them,” the Swiss man had stated to the newspaper and continued with, “I have an assignment to fulfill.” Good later drove to Mehrauli and met people there who were aware of Meier’s contacts “with the girl from space.” They described him as being “ethical and full of enthusiasm.” Interestingly enough, it was this young woman from space, named Asket according to Meier, with whom the UN diplomat had seen Meier walking around! ....
-A video tape of her presentation of this plus further information, taken on Feb 23, 1999, at the 8th Annual International UFO Congress in Laughlin, NV, along with presentations of Wendelle Stevens, Michael Hesemann and Methusalem Meier in the session entitled "The Reopening of the Meier Case," is available from:
+====Transcript====
-International UFO Congress<br />
+For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click [[Phobol Chang's 1999 Talk at Laughlin, Nevada|here]].
-Telephone: (303) 651-7136<br />
+==Further Reading==
-For a sincerely interested person, this key witness and ex-UN diplomat might be available for interview; contact "Dave" at: davidhurlburt@sbcglobal.net. For a rough transcript of Phobol's 1999 talk, click here.
+A list of some 65 Meier-case witnesses whose reports are available in the literature or on the Web, along with other information, is presented in [[Witness Matrix|this Table]].
 ==Source==
 * http://www.tjresearch.info/witness.htm