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Talk:Chat

2010-08-08T00:06:13Z

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== Wizard said ... ==

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What will happen with this Gulf Coast oil disaster? Will it distroy Florida in time?

--Wizard 05:19, 15 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Often I find some discussions as boring and rather a nuisance when there are others not at the same level requiring excessive time before moving on. True, those who are advanced should assist those that are still in the learning stages, but it often hinders our growth as well.

Maybe if these more advanced ones could open some private chat as in the IRC method, then make it available to others would suffice? However, unless one has administrator rights to save the whole communication without the labor intensive "cut/paste" line item method, this method will not work.

Finally, would be interesting if topics were selected prior to these meetings and posted (for those with similar interests). Those presenting these topics should prepare materials at hand and not just "troll" some topic just to see how the discussion develops.

However a word of caution, please keep information that can be abused by the degenerative ones secured for safe keeping. Maybe the Plejaren can assist in this matter, to provide a secure means in order for those advanced enough to ensure they evolve without abuse from other obsessed with power lust and greed?

--Hawaiian 00:43, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Say Hawaiian,can you build a working free energy generator?I am looking for any input that is useful for conducting high frequency/voltage.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 03:36, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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No reply?

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 06:41, 7 July 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian: sorry to hinder your growth.

--Zameen 04:28, 8 July 2010 (BST)
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== cup said ... ==

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nice job monkey:)

--cup 22:29, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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== Daniel said ... ==

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Zameen, I wasnt going to write anything, but ive gone away and thought about what youve written here: "Hawaiian: sorry to hinder your growth." - I resent this kind of language Zameen, because there is no need for it. Please try and reserve these kinds of sentiments in the future. I didnt read what Hawaiian said in this way. Thanks

--Daniel 21:16, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Monkey, no such generator have been built so far....the parts are all in Cup's back yard! No harm done on this end..:-)as a matter of fact, I will forward some very interesting topics to BEAM for him or the inner core responses, that will be later posted on this site in the very near future.

No pun intended to others, but I diffinately need the challenge to further evolve these concepts within the advancements found amongst the inner group. That way these interpertation connections or linkages are set on the right track before being explored for further analysis, which will be imparted in layperson's language to assist others in their quest for knowledge in regards to each particular level of evolution in the hopes one day soon, we'll be in the same realm of awareness.

--Hawaiian 01:52, 7 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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my apologies to Hawaiian for the unfortunate remark.At the time it seemed to be a condescending remark aimed at those not entirely up to the complete understanding as others here. Again my apologies to Hawaiian and i shall refrain from any other remarks like the one in question here.

--Zameen 16:46, 7 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Zameen...apologies compassively accepted, we all learn from bumps and bruises some times. Often when one shares the pain, they become quite loyal friends, one of my best friends was made after a physical fight...although Queztal may say it is "barbaric", Billy would probably approve, the end result is what really matters...Saalome

--Hawaiian 01:06, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Poll Suggestions

2010-08-07T23:59:58Z

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== Reginald said ... ==

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Should Ptaah (or any other e.t.) stop giving predictions/prophecies/foretellings?

--Reginald 18:37, 5 July 2010 (BST)
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== Reggie said ... ==

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It's been many years since - of all people/magazines, it was a dutch gossip magazine (called PRIVé), who published an extensive article about Billy Meijer and his extra-terrestial contacts. With the famous fotographs. And without ridiculing either Billy or the e.t. contacts. Maybe they could be invited for an interview of some sort

--Reggie 18:43, 5 July 2010 (BST)
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== Reggie said ... ==

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P.S. I'm still waiting for Ptaah to appear in Dutch Skies. Third tuesday in september maybe? Over The Hague at 13.00 hrs sharp.

--Reggie 18:45, 5 July 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Why? Reg.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 00:59, 8 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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By my calculation, is the male species of human endangered due to there being more women on the planet. Imagine if they teamed up and started voting. Duck for cover fellas. :) Hearing the prophecies of women taking a greater leadership role is quite interesting to know. I hope there driving skills have improved by then as well or we are really going to be an endangered species. j/k

--Mark 01:32, 8 July 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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i find the prospect of woman leaders quite refreshing and logical. of course the information suggests the role of woman leaders in our present time will still be conflicted by women who are or will be, still ruled by the laws of Male's. but a start is a start nonetheless.

--Zameen 04:09, 8 July 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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1. Do you think that those responsible for degenerated events imposed on humans are still obligated to bring some type of resolution even if it was done in the past?

2. Do you think that if Earth humans does find a resolution all by themselves without assistance from others for degenerated events done to them by malevolent entities, that these evil ones are also cleared of all negative links as well?

--Hawaiian 00:54, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I think the primary reason why unfortunately women are subjected to secondary roles behind males is because of evil religions. Logically speaking, if one can subjugate women, then in theory one controls at least half of the Earth's population and makes the job much easier to then control the males for complete dominance.

--Hawaiian 00:59, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Poll Suggestions

2010-08-07T23:54:48Z

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Talk:Chat

2010-08-07T00:52:26Z

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Talk:Meditation

2010-07-24T21:35:18Z

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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Hi Phillip, how are you?

First I want to thank you for the input. Some of the corrections I do like a lot and will keep them. But there are a couple where I don't completely agree with and would like to change them back, if you don't mind. I will try to explain why I do or don't agree with the corrections and keep the current translation for three weeks before I make the changes. Until then, I would appreciate to hear your counterargument if you think that something is wrong with my reasoning. After all, my goal is to get this translated as good as possible and my English does have some flaws.

First part:

1. sufficient sleep be in proportion to all occupations.
1. genügend geschlafen wird im Verhältnis zu aller Beschäftigung.

This one is not correct. Geschlafen is a verb and genügend is an adjective. The "wird" is an active present tense of the word werden: http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/werden

Wird translates into "is being" to express the same active present tense. Also, all of the ten point are the second part of the "In daily life it is to be payed attention that". Therefore, the whole correct sentence is: "In daily life it is to be payed attention that sufficiently is being slept in proportion to all occupation".

2. good

5. good

7. very good, thanks

Second Part:

1. great. For some reason I only had "radiating" in mind and that reminded me too much of radioactive materia.

6. I guess smith is not that good of a metaphor in the language, so maker is good. But according to this page, Billy Meier wants Ehrfurcht traslated as deference.
http://dict.figu.org/node/265

7&8. I asked Mr. Meier about the difference between Macht and Kraft. In their official translation they always had Macht->macht, Kraft->power

There are a few more, but I'll get to that later.

Salome!

--Sanjin 02:31, 24 July 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Dear Sanjin,

Go with your instinct or "gut" as what we English speakers would say, after all it is the "intent" or feelings that really matter that written or spoken words cannot truely convey 100 percent of its meaning all the time!

Maybe one sould put some footnotes next to such words to further translate its meaning in regards to the message being conveyed. Even the Plejarens acknowledge that English is a language that has serious flaws in fulfilling its communications translation when compared with the High German.

But that does not mean one cannot replace such flawed words with a High German one and would in effect, have a double benefit for English speaking people as well. First it will provide more insight and meaning for English speaking people and secondly, give them the motivation to pursue the purely High German materials that BEAM has written which are vastly more informational than the English translations!

I would assume that this approach of a hybrid English/High German translation will have a much more imediate effect of elevating human consciousness (which is the primary mission anyway), since there are vastly more English speaking people than High German.

I have runned into such an event recently and "found" a more appropriate word for "sacrifice" (which has negative religious connotations) with a more appropriate High German word of "hingeben" to describe Nokodemjon's honorable endeavors.

And lastly, although the English language is rather young in evolution, it has some benefits as well. Being mostly deviod of inferences and other "implied" meanings found in other more developed languages, English is straight forward, combined with the High German, it will be very effective in estrapulating the strenghts of both languages to this most important mission which is to "enlighten the awareness" of humans on Earth.

Saalome

--Hawaiian 22:35, 24 July 2010 (BST)
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Talk:FIGU Special Bulletin 036

2010-06-21T01:46:48Z

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== mummy said ... ==

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It's all my fault.I wish I was superduperman.I would collect all military hardware and melt them down and make the worlds largest solar panel.Then I would shut down all power companies.All guns would shoot out a flag that says bang then it would say gotcha.I would change corporate priorities from profit to environment and then welfare of people who actually do the work of the corporation.Then I would demand the media start telling the truth or I would destroy their satellites and put the owners on an island along with all the government politicians that seem to think they know how we should live our lives.I would kick out the lobbyists and all the rich people in government and if your a religious rich politician.You need to just stay home. Because your definitely not helping anyone except your buddies and other rich religious politicians.The food companies would have to send all extra food to whoever is in need.I would demand more schools and less prisons and then I would fly to the moon and take a break.Man I wish I was superduperman.

--mummy 10:47, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I would educate everyone in the sciences so they know the reality of the destructive nature of our beloved Earth humans on there home. If people are aware then they will act, the problem is they have been fed too much BS for such a long time there minds are stubborn to realize that there are other possibilities out there. I find it quite troubling that we show our best character when the disaster occurs, rather than averting the disaster from occuring by planning ahead.

--Mark 18:15, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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It also seems that many in power are still controlled by the false , sub-conscious workings of the bafath, to which we must deal with for still many years (or even another lifetime or two). I must admit however, i find it so sad and unfortunate that so many will be harmed,killed,displaced,deceived,and tortured for so many more years until something fruitful comes about in regards to peace,love,harmony,and kindness to our planet. I must admit, in my infantile, yet expanding understanding of the mission, it still angers me that nothing can or will be done by outside forces to stop the destruction of lives here. I know it is not the plejarans fault that we are killing and murdering ourselves, but on the other hand, we were genetically manipulated towards degeneracy and so it seems logical that such a manipulation can lead towards to us going along with the Giza intelligences idea's of religions. we have been given the shaft all along without ever once having a clean slate to start from like so many other races had on their planets. I am completely in support of the FIGU mission and all that Billy has done and will continue to do(a true beacon if ever there was one)but in 800 years there are going to be so many wars and deaths and treachery that it confuses me in my limited understanding that this can be allowed to go on without intervention. All of us know one thing for sure.Here on Earth, average every day people like my self are powerless to stop this. I know people say "vote to get the right people in office so we can change things for the better, but a fat lot of help that is when half the elections around the world are almost always rigged(especially the U.S.)and not to mention we have a second government that completely operates on its own with no oversight, with the license to kill any and all who oppose whenever they feel like it. What am I supposed to do about that? NOTHING! I cant do any thing about that! not a single one of us can! there are undoubtedly people within those agencies who want change but even they are powerless against it. this frazzles me because ultimate self responsibility is almost choked out to the point where the only real decisions we have left is: frozen pizza's tonight? or tuna casserole?

--Zameen 19:00, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Dear Zameen,

I can understand you and that it is difficult in these times. You have to look more on the immaterial side of the whole story and in a more big time lapse. 800 years out of 80 million is really not that long. However that it works in 800 years, we have to work already today and lay the corner stones. Everything starts in the small and becomes bigger, bigger and bigger. The good values have to be created in everyone and carried outside, which then will affect the own environment, familly, friends ect...... We, as "normal" citizens for sure can not change the whole planet in a few years,..... that would be nice but it is unrealistic as we have to stick to creational laws and do our evolution which needs it's appropriate time. If you do the right things and develop your good values inside yourself and bring them to your surrounding, you will have already done your part ;).

Self fullfilement lies in the act of developping ones own inner self and consciousness.

We can not afford, or have the luxury to get "desparated" ;).

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 22:06, 20 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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800 years is the timeline given by the Plejarens based on "their" interpertation, however as indicated in some of my posts, this concept need not be strictly followed because of various reasons that has not considered the merits of Nokodemjon's intervention and his quest for balance between evil and good.

He, along with other BEINGS of the pure spititual nature, rounded up the degenerated ones responsible for evil, controlled the memory banks and who reincarnates or not for billions of years, then allowed the natural course of Creational laws to continue, which did not last long before evil once again emerged again and continue to this day.

Thus, what Nokodemjon did, was to lay the foundation for future logical, humane intervention(s), but as in the past, it requries the cooperation between the material as well as fine spiritual BEINGS working togethor to bring the necessary balance amongst those that "benefit" off the expense of others creating disharmony, deaths, abuse, prostituting creational laws and creating untold suffering that still harms others for hundreds of years.

Especially so for Earth humans, who are subjected to the insane short-circuited-programmed suicides of shorten life cycles by the Creator Overlords, then further oppressed by religions from a whole line of abusive human parasites started by advanced ET's to the Giza and current leaders of today.

Therefore, the DERN universe MAY require another similar intervention which addresses the equational potentials between the appropriate entities that form this most complex situation between the have and have nots.

--Hawaiian 02:46, 21 June 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Are Earth's religions false?

2010-06-02T01:31:05Z

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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)True, religions are for those too lazy to think for themselves, depending on some ridiculus god or church to find the answers that are all within each and every human being on Earth! It is just a degenerative exploitation tool to control the masses in order for those responsible for religions to stay in power, in other words, to exist at the expense of others...no better than human parasites!

The Christians as well as Muslums are illogical to believe "their" prophet is now a god and be worshiped. Jmmanuel, the 5th prophet who is falsely named Jesus Christ is nothing but a black hole abyss, because when something is invalid, all prayer energies directly toward it becomes nothing too! Besides, why have another prophet coming later, Mohammed, the 6th, if the Christians were correct that Jesus is now god, the Absolute!

Completely illogical, if the prophet's mission were successful as both these major religions claim...then why have the final 7th prophent, BEAM (although he depises this title for good reason)? Besides, what gives this so called god or gods the right to be the only ones EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED in Creation, when Creation is dependent that ALL intelligent beings including all things created to become ONE, so that Creation can continue to evolve forever?

One should also pose this question directly, parents are superior to their off spring, yet they want them to become greater than themselves, yet religion preaches that there is only one god, the absolute. If so, that this god is a thug, power lustful degenerate, because like parents, he/she or it should be HONORED to have another human or intelligent being become spiritually at the same level or higher. But that is not the case, thus one can conclude that religions, the concept of god are all false, being it only promotes the power lustful and not yourself...period!

No prophet has ever wanted to be elevated above their fellow mankind or womankind, they all want others to become much more spiritually evolved, thus it is this honor that they so desire all to become. Same concept s applies to these false gods, if they would only admit their mistakes and attempt to bring harmony for the crimes they commit, because even Creation has the capacity to evolve accordingly.
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yep religion are false teaching they are worng on term creation so jmmanuel fasle names of jesus . easter and christmas is false too but christmas is still remnain my faviorte holiday. but they have no ideal what is really giong in our dern universe. it was severe lack of understand about true our brother and sister and cosmic friends they have made by creation.

--robert 18:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Rob Pettigrew said ... ==

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Which is very interesting. Concidering that what Billy is doing is creating a religion in it's truest form. Think about it. He has a Prophet, Commandments, A supreme being (creation) Laws on behavior and enlightenment as provided by extra-dimensional beings. Most if not all of his teaching are unproveable and must be taken on faith, if for no other reason then every bit of Hard evidence ends up being destroyed or lost

--Rob Pettigrew 00:03, 2 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I find that Eduard hasn't altered any of the creational teachings because everything mostly and naturally makes sense. However the current religions altered many of the original content. The 10 commandments when there was actually 12. I find the the current religions and new ones that spring up somehow put fear into man and with altered writings manipulate those that can't find confidence that each person can create there own train of thought for themselves. I agree that religion is somewhat an enslavement because you tend to agree with everything a priest or preacher says. Look how simple it is to create a religion scientology, or any other means to gain followers. I see it as a large group of ideas combating another group of ideas and ideals. The universal truth would never make anyone feel pressured into something. Religion is a pressure cooker set on high with no escape. Those that do escape are quite lucky to be able to choose there path unimpeded.

--Mark 00:47, 2 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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To Rob Pettigrew,

Apparently you know very little of these Creational Laws, spiritual development/evolution and other materials written by Billy Meier to categorise it's meanings as similar to religious dogmas! Quite the contrast, for BEAM's mission is to free humanity from the insane, corrupt, power-lust greed and destruction that religions promote.

BEAM's mission is quite the opposite, because every single human or other intelligences are all part of Creation and has the potential to become Creation, not some fallacy god or gods, which by definition are just titles of material Beings, far below even the half physical/spiritual High Council.

Until one first frees himself or herself from these stupid religious dogmas, they have little hope of evolving any further, nor will they have the necessary facilities to become consciously aware of their true potentials, surpassing the very concept of god, the roadblock of evolution.

--Hawaiian 02:31, 2 June 2010 (BST)
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