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Talk:Sirian

2010-08-25T17:32:25Z

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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Jamesm,

Do you delete the comments made by Drekx Omega? If yes, too bad, it could have served as a reminder to others he/she may have mislead and continued by others of such capacity. A "testament" or example to avoid being swayed away from Creational teachings.

It was an excellent exercise of fruitily and I would have loved to do a summary analysis in short order so that others on the fringe may have a direct exposure from the frauds who are out there in lala land, but can cause terrible damage to those not familiar to BEAM's mission.

Maybe it could be revised, taking out the abusive language and personal attacks and just concentrating on the topic at hand? Just my opinion.

Saalome

--Hawaiian 22:33, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Hawaiian I think the following line from Jmmanuel provide us with the answer to that suggestion:

''It is better to let an unreasonable person walk on the path of misery than to bring confusion to one's own consciousness''. Page 110 - The Talmud of Jmmanuel. I've recently been reading it again.

Drekx was bringing confusion to others with his lies and untruths and so we should not allow that to happen. By deleting the conversation others will not have a chance to become confused by him.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:56, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Before i discovered BEAM, I was looking at everything for information on UFO's and all related articles and topics. for some reason, when i saw pics of Billy, I stayed away from him for some reason and I am still unsure why. I found the Galactic Federation of Light and became pretty interested, wanted to know more so I searched out everything I could find. I must have listened to 4 months of that computer voice and at first I must admit I kinda believed it. I was whisked away with the thoughts of being "whisked away" so that I did not have worry about our past discretion's and we were going to be magically lifted into highly evolved states all at the same time, under the polar ice caps, in crystal chambers. soon all these "channeler's" begin to pop up constantly and the computer voice became less grammatically correct, the tone and verbiage was taking on a less serious tone and through the inevitable degradation of too many people trying to do it, just became too stupid to go along with. the ideas smack of other ideas, philosophies,etc. i explored Barbara Marciniak, she was trying to say that the " pleadians wanted women to dabble remnants of their menses in each corner of the property to strengthen some kind of spiritual bond or something totally ridiculous. I found George Green and he just sounded like Alex Jones all over again. I had my go with that guy and found him to be utterly not listenable. And finally ended up listening to everything R. Winters had on youtube. including the 150 part series on BEAM. when I finally went to the FIGU site, the first thing I saw was a list of all these people plus a bunch more that FIGU was warning against. I found that to be very interesting and since then as they say "the rest is history. I have found more than just information, but a steady, consistent, stream of deep knowledge, strong philosophy, and totally corroborative insight in regards to prophecy and prediction. I find myself applying these things to my everyday life and am met with good reaction from the world around me. I know that I will continue this exploration for the remainder of my days and hopefully be re-acquainted with this bountiful and generous organization in the next lives to come!! SALOME:)

--Zameen 22:57, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Zameen thanks for that fairly detailed account of your evolution in separating the wheat from the chaff! Mine is similar, just the names change a little.

I'm not sure why I have always been interested in things extraterrestrial and the questions about my inner self but it has always been so. I used to be a daydreamer too but that might be because I'm a Pisces to some extent. I have read many books on UFOs over the last 15 years. Sheldon Nidle's book ''You Are Becoming A Galactic Human'' was probably one of the first. It was interesting back in 1994 approx and I also started reading his website updates on the progress of the ''photon belt''. This included claims that when it hits Earth we were going to ascend into the 5th dimension and then they will land (the Galactic Fed of Light). Then we were going to be rejuvenated by their technology I think and become integrated with their society. All very desirable things to a young man of my disposition. These updates on his website got progressively repetitive and sillier until I saw through the illusion and deception. I also bought Barbara Marciniaks book but could not read past the first few chapters. It was simply not what I was looking for I think. The bit about menstrual blood also struck a big discordant note with me too.

Off I then went on a quest to find the real truth behind UFOs and also about my inner self. I read UFO books like ''Alien Liaison'', ''Unearthly Disclosure'' and ''The UFO Encyclopaedia'', and also books on reincarnation such as ''Life After Life''. Gaiaguys have my thanks for telling me about the significance of Billy which resulted in me investigating Billy's writings very thoroughly and making this website what it is today. Of course there are many other contributors who also have my thanks. They know who they are. They should thank themselves silently :)

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:33, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Jamesm and Zameen,

I was actually looking forward in engaging Drekx more, because in the end he/she was avoiding my questions which was probing his/her knowledge and trickles of contradictions/delusions started to appear.

I do admit, he/she knows quite a bit about BEAM, but is misguided in acknowledging the entire messages and "stuck" on religious dogmas, but who knows, maybe he/she would have a change of heart once we get to "massage" his/her brain a little more? But, you may be right in not letting (he/she quit) the posting sway others away from the truth.

Now, as far as being attracted to Billy's mission, it was more of a chance encounter while doing some research on UFO topics. I've experienced an incident over 15 years ago while suddenly having the urge to look outside the window around 2 AM.

There were about 5 or 6 shinning objects all equally spaced apart just motionless in the sky about 1 mile away. I just looked at it for about several minutes, then in my mind wanted to get a closer look, which it approached and stayed there, now right over the hills only about 100 meters, still all equally spaced apart, but now more defined and exactly the way Billy shows them in his pictures.

At this time, although not trained in telepathy, I tried to contact "it" and got an immediate response which I can only describe as something like being looked over "under a huge microscope", very odd feeling that scared the s%$t out of me.

Instantly all the objects started slowly moving to the right, which in my mind I brushed it off as being a illusion, but at that instant, these objects then moved in a sine way fashion, equally space intervals across the sky!

Also, when I was a 7 year old kid and late for baseball practice, I couldn't reach for my baseball bat which was in a big box. Tried, but couldn't reach it, out of frustration, that bat moved from the far corner and right into my hands!

Also, at times I get dreams of meeting people or experiencing things that in the future, it still happens, but now it's much more interactive, just like in real life sometimes. Actually had 3 separate dreams meeting Jesus Christ and his disciples, the last time I told him to F&^k off and join the creator overlords when he tried to put a crown on my head.

There are more incidents, which I don't want to talk about because it will get others in trouble. And that is why I currently read and study BEAM, but now I'm more interested in the spiritual application and one theory I'm working on called the "Equational Potentials", which I have forwarded to FIGU about 2 weeks ago and gotten no response???

Saalome

--Hawaiian 00:24, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Drekx was one unique person I'll tell you that but felt had an uncomfortable aura about how DO worded and altered many things. I hope this person finds peace in there many lifetimes or youtube is in danger. :) j/k

--Mark 01:56, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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you guys are pretty cool

--Zameen 04:31, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Dave said ... ==

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Jamesm,

I think your action was appropriate. This forum should not be a sounding board for those delusional thoughts. As you rightly said, it would bring confusion to others with lies and untruths. This forum should serve only to present new revelations and clarified existing Meier materials.

Very wise, by the way, in using the TJ to guide you.

Dave

--Dave 05:12, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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could it be that the exchanges afforded to drekx here at this site served as the aforementioned need for more debate on this subject? perhaps this could help he/she in realizing certain truths delusion-ally withheld? or maybe the much needed exploration into our own REAL understanding of such an expansive subject. i have a lot to do!!

--Zameen 05:43, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==

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I have to agree with Hawaiian, in that it’s too bad that all of the comments made by Drekx Omega were completely deleted. In fact, it is extremely unfortunate. Thankfully, people can still read the discussion in the history section of the Talk:Taljda page, if they so desire.

Basically, here’s what the entire conversation boiled down to: Drekx Omega offered information that wasn’t found in the Meier material and that, in some parts, disagreed with it. While some were willing to inquire into why Drekx concludes what he does, others simply attacked him, for no other presented reason than that he was saying things that couldn’t be found anywhere in the Meier material. Then, in response to the fact that Drekx was saying things that couldn’t be found in the Meier material, he was forced into silence and designated as a false prophet.

I would like all who were actively involved in the discussion to consider a few things:

What would have a more positive impact on those who are new to the case and who are visiting a website in order to learn more about it:

1. While looking at a discussion on a particular page, they see that information which doesn’t agree with the Meier material is welcomed and that, nevertheless, logical and polite arguments are presented by those who disagree with such information.
2. While reading a discussion on a page, they see that information which doesn’t agree with the Meier material is baselessly attacked and then silenced into oblivion, for no other presented reason than that it doesn’t agree with the Meier material.

Also, what would be seen by those who are new to the case and who are seeing what is going on in point number 2 above? Would they see individuals - who harshly attack and silence anything that disagrees with them, for evidently no other reason then that they disagree with it - as those who are confident in their worldview and who are actively able to defend it, or would they see such individuals as those who rotely believe in anything that they know their teacher says and who are hopelessly threatened by anything that disagrees with what they know?

Finally, does the second set of individuals described above sound anything like the cult-followers of today?

I must say that I am very disappointed in the discussion that I observed over the past couple of days, and Drekx Omega, if you read this and it means anything to you, I apologize for the misconduct of the many individuals on that thread, who claim to own the truth for themselves. I applaud how you conducted yourself through it all and, by this, see that you are much wiser than those who attacked you.

--Benjamin Stevens 16:06, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi James, you should actually put everything back and headline it as "illusion of grandeur". As the old saying goes, hold your friends close, and your enemies closer. I don't see it as a bad thing and it may open others eyes to the ways of the liars, deceivers and swindlers. It's good to see what a person is up against and the tools used to defend ourselves, may be of help to others?
(Plus I didn't get to see the "ending" before it was dismantled, lol)

--Sheila 16:09, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Schantz said ... ==

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Below is from the website that Drekx kept promoting. While he's entitled to his opinion, I'm also entitled to mine. I wonder how Meier supporters would have been treated if we went to his website and started insulting him and his information.

Dear world,

If we are to be free human beings, then we must learn to accept God as our Authority.

If we do not accept God as our Authority, then we accept satan or his representatives as our authority.

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To anyone who wants to control you…ask them “WHO IS YOUR AUTHORITY?”….IF THEY ANSWER GOD, THEN THEY MUST PROVE IT IN EVERY THOUGHT THEY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, INCLUDING HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAWS OF GOD AND CREATION. IF THEY DON’T ANSWER GOD, THEN THEY ARE NOT YOUR AUTHORITY AND THEY NEED TO BE CORRECTED AS TO WHY THEY ARE NOT GOD’S REPRESENTATIVE AND THEREFORE ARE A REPRESENTATIVE OF SATAN. AT THAT POINT YOU MAY REITERATE THAT YOU ARE NOT ENSLAVED BY SATAN AND THAT SATAN’S REPRESENTATIVE IS IN GROSS ERROR, RATHER YOU ARE A FREE BEING OF GOD.

NOTE: GOD WANTS YOU TO KNOW THAT ANY AGREEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE SIGNED WITH SATAN’S REPRESENTATIVES ARE NO
LONGER BINDING, AND THEY NEVER WERE! WHY IS THIS SO? IT IS SO, BECAUSE SATAN’S REPRESENTATIVES HAVE NOT SIGNED THEIR CONTRACTS IN GOOD FAITH, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF ANY BINDING CONTRACT. IF YOUR GOVERNMENTS, COURTS, CORPORATIONS, BANKS ARE NOT UNDER GOD, THEN EFFECTIVELY, THEIR CONTRACTS ARE NULL AND VOID. A CONTRACT OF SOMEONE WHO IS OUT TO DESTROY YOU (INNOCULATE YOU WITH POISONS, POISON YOUR AIR, WATER, SOIL AND LIFE)…THIS CONTRACT IS NOT BINDING.

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I for one stand by my comments to Drekx, and have no need to apologize for any misconduct on my part.

--Schantz 17:02, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Schantz said ... ==

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In regards to deleting a poster and his comments that don't agree with the Meier material. One option could be to have a disclaimer at the top of every "talk page", stating something like "people may post information here that goes against the spiritual teaching of Billy Meier."

That way people can have their say whether we agree with them or not.

I do think the rest of this website should be Meier material only and if someone intentionally posts false information then their information should be deleted.

--Schantz 17:35, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I do have to admit that Drekx Omega did point out some issues that need some work on, however I was noticing some movement on his/her part away from the religious dogmas and admitted at one point not to believe such matters.

It's too bad the discussion ended as I was trying to get him/her committed to the benevolent Sirian connection that was proven by BEAM's conversation with Ptaah not to exist, besides the gift and arrest of the MIB. The only Sirian connection to the degeneration of Earth humans so far as I can see are the creator overlords and their "traitor" counterparts.

The "connection" that Drekx was eluding for was the benevolent Sirians and the reasons why he/she believed they have taken over from the Plejaren's departure.

He/she already committed to not being religiously oriented, thus if the "link" on the benevolent Sirian could be broken (in Drekx's mind), then he/she would have to admit all along that only Sirians "obligated" to make amends are the creator overlords and their counterparts. Thus he/she would have to admit that the religions and DNA manipulation and other degenerative things done to Earth humans are none other than those mentioned above not the benevolent Sirians. So in essence, that would have brought Drekx completely around full circle and back into the folds of what Billy and us knew all along in the first place.

We would have gotten an ally instead of a adversary and all those that go to his/her site would also have been influenced in some way or another? I read in one passage that even Billy was told by the Plejaren not to confront one of his inner circle member directly for a similar encounter, but to keep him as it would be more beneficial than having an adversary on the outside causing more trouble and confusion, I forgot which Contact Note, would appreciate it if someone can point it out or correct me if wrong, but I do recall such a note.

Anyways, I would agree that we need to discuss such matters more as Zameen suggested.

--Hawaiian 18:32, 25 August 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Sirian

2010-08-24T23:24:34Z

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Talk:Sirian

2010-08-24T21:33:57Z

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Talk:Taljda

2010-08-24T20:00:46Z

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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Taljda should be of special genesic interest to all Earth people who are of the Chinese racial type, including the Japanese....
As she is of that same racial type, with yellow skin and dark hair, having originated on planet Nissan, near Lasan, in the Lyra star system...

About 26,000 years ago, colonists from Nissan came to Earth and settled, becoming the Chinese and Japanese nations, aeons later...

The Lyra star system possesses several origin planets, from which all Humans derive their genetic makeup...

In Light, Drekx Omega

--Drekx Omega 20:32, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Of linguistic interest and remembering the connection between the ancient Lyran dialect and those of the old German Earth language:

The name Taljda is pronounced; "TAL-YE-DA."
In German the letter "J" pronounced as the letter "Y."

Likewise the famous Plejara named Semjase..
again the "y" pronounciation for the second syllable of the name that means; "demi-goddess."

--Drekx Omega 20:54, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Thanks for the info Drekx Omega. My ? is how did you find that out and what planet are you from? :) j/k I know from the contact reports they were overpopulated so I guess they decided Earth would be a nice place to settle. China hasn't gotten the memo on overpopulation thus they must know so Earth won't suffer a similar fate as past generations have.

--Mark 22:44, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== Terran said ... ==

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Drekx,

Why is there no mention of the GFL, mass landings, care taker governments, etc. in any of the Meier material?

--Terran 06:58, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Terran,

The Plejaren are not mandated to educate Earth people on the planned First Contact, as that role has been assumed by the Sirians...as from 1994, when the Plejaren offically "retired" from their Earth overseer role...and passed the baton over.

The purpose behind the Meier contacts was to provide Earth humanity with a re-introduction to their roots, with objective evidence of their ET origins...
The Plejaren were never intended to "land on the Whitehouse lawn," as it were...

Unlike the Sirian (from planet Samanet, which orbite Sirius B) contact mission, which was briefly alluded to in the Chapter 6 Extraterrestrials data, which covers some imformation about the projected timeline leading to a planned contact...then suggested as the year 2000, but revised later, following interference from the human elites.

The Samanet Sirians are Galactic Humans, like the Plejaren and gifted Sfath with a Sirian scout ship.

The Chapter 6 section I refer to is titled; "Peaceful ET race to officially visit Earth - 35.P1068-1083."

Here is an extract from this important data:

"Nearly all Pleiadians will retire from the Earth if an unknown human race starts to visit the Earth from the cosmos. The Pleiadians have determined that this will probably occur before 2000 if unanticipated factors before then do not put this enterprise in question. If these negative factors do not develop, humanity on Earth will first officially meet human beings from other worlds around 2000. The first public appearance of these strange visitors will cause horror and panic because of false information concerning extraterrestrials and unreasonable people. But, there will be no danger from these human-like forms because they will be peaceful and harmless. Their culture and spiritual state will be superior to Earth humans." end quote.

These "unknowns" are my people, the Samanet Sirians...as I'm a starseed..
The contact mission was put back several times and is now imminent.

The quote above was from the chapter 6 link here:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_6_-_EXTRATERRESTRIALS

--Drekx Omega 09:54, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Mark,

I am a Sirian starseed, as mentioned in my answer to Terran.

If you would like to learn more about this, you can visit my blog on the Sirian Star System and contribute your views, if you want to.

http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/drekx-omega-the-sirian-star-system/#comment-7246

--Drekx Omega 10:05, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx, in the interests of truth, we know there are no starseeds and therefore you must be a fraud or even suffering from delusion. I hope you overcome this problem soon.

Peace

James

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:15, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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There is a very interesting contact report posted on this excellent website, which covers the subject of the arrest of MIB renegades by Sirian security on the surface of Mars, in 2006...

Topic covered by Ptaah in this contact report:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors

--Drekx Omega 10:19, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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..... As far as i know, no contact will be "iminent", as the Plejaren told those who wanted to land in 2000 to wait a 100-200 years more before doing that, because all the Ufologists and the religions create delusions and that we were not ready yet for an official contact with extraterrestrial humans. One race, i do not know what race anymore (I have to check the contact notes again), but certainly not from Sirius, wanted effectively to land on the planet in 2000 for a contact..... but the Plejaren warned them not to do it and they listened to the Plejaren....

By the way, Billy has still regular contact with the Plejaren.

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 10:22, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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James,

The great majority of Earth Humans descended from ET ancestors, originally...

An example given above was that wave of colonists from the planet Nissan..

Others came from different planets in the Lyra system, in earlier periods...we call them "ancient Earth souls."

Some ET colonists came more recently, and we call them "starseed." All Earth humans are from off-world, though, as Darwin's theory that we issued from apes, is complete hogwash...

NO MAN IS AN ISLAND, JAMES...although Earth is an island in the cosmos and one visited frequently..

--Drekx Omega 10:29, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Neckel,
you said:"..... As far as i know, no contact will be "iminent", as the Plejaren told those who wanted to land in 2000 to wait a 100-200 years." end quote.

The Plejaren do not want you to treat their words as religious rit, to be observed to the letter...they want you to think for yourself and become self-realised, under the creational laws.

The whole process of First Contact is dependent on the raising of earth human consciousness...freeing humanity from religious delusions, barbaric wars, environmental degradation and economic slavery to debt.
The Plejaren have often made the future appear grim, so as to stimulate a raising of concerns among the readers of the contact notes, so that they will become more active in addressing the real issues...

Prophecies can be altered, timelies can be changed, with consciousness raising...the purpose behind the messages...

Also, as I said, the Plejaren are unofficially involved in this process now...their official overseer role has lapsed to others.

Please try to think for yourself, rather than treating everything written in the notes as a religious text with unbreakable wording, that requires your absolute compliance, as this is not what the Plejaren seek....

--Drekx Omega 10:45, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Interesting words from someone who believes in Hatonn and 2012 ect...... i do not believe anything and i went trough a phase of big sceptiscisme before realizing that the case Billy Meier is real........ We will see if your "friends" will land soon or not ;)

Salome
Nicolas

--Neckel 11:03, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Drekx Omega,

I've checked your website, which unfortunately has images of that impostor Jesus Christ and reading further it mentions "temples" on the surface of your planet another reference to what the Plejaren look upon with disgust.

Also, if what you are saying that the Sirians are taking over in educating Earth humans, then why in Contact Report 141 does the Plejaren went out of their way to bring to Earth the Hasters? Theses human ET's are from the planet Haster in the Garon system of the JENAM galaxy 483 million light years from Earth.

They are about 1,120 years ahead in evolution, but live in the same time-level as the SOL system and are currently based under the North Sea. So if these Hasters are here on Earth to instruct Earth humans, then someone is not telling the truth?

89. However, this now means that the Haster inhabitants can freely move among the Earth people because their vibrations turn out to be bearable with those of the Earth people, but only briefly

90. The Haster inhabitants cannot remain in the direct range of the vibrations of the Earth people for more than 17 hours; otherwise, they begin to lose control of themselves.

91. But since they have this 17-hour possibility, they have decided that they will seek contact with one or several people of the Earth for their study purposes and also for the instruction of the Earth people, but certainly with no more than three people, who must remain silent about it for their lifetimes, which is why especially upright people are to be selected for these contacts, who can be completely trusted.

Therefore, to verify your credentials, please answer the following question. Do you believe that when the victims of interferences (religions, DNA manipulation and other ills) are resolved by themselves, that the abuser's negative links to these negative Cause and Effect are also resolved automatically or still remains negatively unbalanced as far as spiritual evolution is concerned?

--Hawaiian 11:55, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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In response to Hawaiian, the abuser's negative links (blind religions, distorted sciences) to these negative Cause and Effect factors are not resolved automatically and an effort must still be made to bring evolutionary balance, even if the abused subject managed a semblance of self-correction, alone and unaided....

Incidentally I live near the North Sea, coincidentally...East Anglia. :-)

--Drekx Omega 19:53, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Neckel,

I am a guest on the website you visited and not the owner, who is a Canadian who believes in Hatonn, etc...
I do not believe in Hatonn, nor am I a religious follower of the false church, rest assured...

He (the site owner) likes my esoteric and political messages and places them for public discourse...20 blogs to date...

--Drekx Omega 19:58, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Hawaiian,

What I described was not life on planet Erra, but life on planet Samanet....

The "temples" on the surface are not used for "religious worship," but rather serve as harmonically proportioned tools in the co-ordination of geomantic sciences that relate to the maintenance of the good order of nature...
In summary, weather control devices using aetheric and manasic impulse technology, linked to the minds of the ritualists involved...
In this case, the Sirians...

Similar technologies were used on Earth in Atlantean times...a remnant of that culture being that the Pharaohs of Khemet were expected to maintain the good order of nature and would be blamed for pestilence, drought and flood, in spite of loosing true knowledge of the science to antiquity...

--Drekx Omega 20:09, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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"Also, if what you are saying that the Sirians are taking over in educating Earth humans, then why in Contact Report 141 does the Plejaren went out of their way to bring to Earth the Hasters?"

Because they are specialist members of the same Galactic Federation, serving alongside the Sirians and many others...

I would also like to remind everyone here that nobody should treat the contact reports as if they were bible texts, to be quoted and held as a rod to smite unbelievers with....

Each report contains data that may be spot on, may be mis-translated, may even be in error...
And frequently scenarios described a decade ago as a future projection prophecy, may be revised and modified, closer to the time....

One example being the date for WW3, which the Plejaren have projected, yet is still subject to change, as human consciousness permits...
There are multiple timelines and the one we are now on leads to the golden age, in spite of outward appearances to the contrary...

It all depends on human consciousness growth and always remains flexible to factors governed within the creational laws...

Federation plans are being revised continually, so if a certain report, say, in 1976, said something then, it may not be played out closer to the time it was eluding to...
Prophecy can be changed and so can plans and that includes cosmic plans....

--Drekx Omega 20:26, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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1. In response to Hawaiian, the abuser's negative links (blind religions, distorted sciences) to these negative Cause and Effect factors are not resolved automatically and an effort must still be made to bring evolutionary balance, even if the abused subject managed a semblance of self-correction, alone and unaided....
Incidentally I live near the North Sea, coincidentally...East Anglia. :-)

1-q. Obviously the Hasters have no negative links to Earth humans except being linked in similar evolutionary level attributes without the negative influences done to them. It is a logical strategic “arrangement” not just for both parties on each side of this equation, (Haster humans = Earth humans), but more importantly other factions both benevolent and malevolent involved since and before the Creator Overlords co-created the manipulated warriors currently living here.
So in essence, where does your affiliation stand on this matter, what negative links are your mission trying to resolve if any, is it mutual or singular or in any way related to those responsible for many degenerative factors against Earth humans? What are you trying to accomplish and would your mission preclude any type of intervention should the need arise in “preserving” those both Earthly and ET from completing their missions for Creational harmony?
2. Because they are specialist members of the same Galactic Federation, serving alongside the Sirians and many others...
I would also like to remind everyone here that nobody should treat the contact reports as if they were bible texts, to be quoted and held as a rod to smite unbelievers with....
2-q. What type of “specialists” are these Hasters and also what are yours? Are you speaking of the same Plejaren Federation referred by you as the “Galactic Federation”? These are questions that will be forwarded to FIGU for further analysis as it opens up a slew of “optional” approaches that, depending on each motivational attribute(s) at their particular level of evolution, becomes chaotic without proper guidance and application and can be very dangerous as well.
So far, you have answered most of my questions unfailingly, but have not made any suggestions or attempted some type of commitment incorporating one’s linkage to mutually assist the dilemma facing the most oppressed, degenerated environment in the DERN universe.
Now, referencing to Contact Reports can sometimes appear to “become” similar to biblical quotations, it is a guide which requires logical assumptions in order to clarify and establish if there are parallel “intent” for matters outside of these Notes. It is not a rod to smite unbelievers, but more like a slap to invoke awareness in others who need such a jolt of good medicine!

--Hawaiian 23:04, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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1. In response to Hawaiian, the abuser's negative links (blind religions, distorted sciences) to these negative Cause and Effect factors are not resolved automatically and an effort must still be made to bring evolutionary balance, even if the abused subject managed a semblance of self-correction, alone and unaided....
Incidentally I live near the North Sea, coincidentally...East Anglia. :-)

1-q. Obviously the Hasters have no negative links to Earth humans except being linked in similar evolutionary level attributes without the negative influences done to them. It is a logical strategic “arrangement” not just for both parties on each side of this equation, (Haster humans = Earth humans), but more importantly other factions both benevolent and malevolent involved since and before the Creator Overlords co-created the manipulated warriors currently living here.
So in essence, where does your affiliation stand on this matter, what negative links are your mission trying to resolve if any, is it mutual or singular or in any way related to those responsible for many degenerative factors against Earth humans? What are you trying to accomplish and would your mission preclude any type of intervention should the need arise in “preserving” those both Earthly and ET in completing their missions for Creational harmony?

2. Because they are specialist members of the same Galactic Federation, serving alongside the Sirians and many others...

I would also like to remind everyone here that nobody should treat the contact reports as if they were bible texts, to be quoted and held as a rod to smite unbelievers with....
2-q. What type of “specialists” are these Hasters and also what are yours? Are you speaking of the same Plejaren Federation referred by you as the “Galactic Federation”?

These are questions that will be forwarded to FIGU for further analysis as it opens up a slew of “optional” approaches that, depending on each motivational attribute(s) at their particular level of evolution, becomes chaotic without proper guidance and application and can be very dangerous as well for both parties.

So far, you have answered most of my questions unfailingly, but have not made any suggestions or attempted some type of commitment incorporating one’s linkage to mutually assist the dilemma facing the most oppressed, degenerated environment in the DERN universe.

Now, referencing to Contact Reports can sometimes appear to “become” similar to biblical quotations, it is a guide which requires logical assumptions in order to clarify and establish if there are parallel “intent” for matters outside of these Notes. It is not a rod to smite unbelievers, but more like a slap to invoke awareness in others who need such a jolt of good medicine!

--Hawaiian-correction copy 23:11, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Terran said ... ==

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Drekx,

Why have the Sirians not provided the types of proofs for their representatives here to verify their authenticity as genuine contactees in a manner similar to what the Plejaren provided Billy Meier. Such as photographs, videos, sound recordings, metal samples, prophecies etc.?

--Terran 23:49, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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In response to Terran, the Samanet Sirians are here for a different purpose than the Plejaren, in so far as the Plejaren role was to provide objective proofs as well as historical and spiritual corrections...
They used a very unique ancient Earth Soul (Meier) to accomplish what, by and large, has succeded in placing Earth evolution upon a timeline that leads to a more positive future, as opposed to destructive war and oblivion, as was the case without their input...
They were never here to "save" humanity, although the cause and effect of their presence has weighed in favour of a type of "saving," in terms of educating many to a higher awareness..thus Earth humans helping themselves, and respect for freewill always honoured.

In contrast, the Sirians and the Galactic Federation have a much closer mission to complete on Earth, again within the remit of freewill. BUT EVOLVING FREEWILL....

As human consciousness expands, freewill is expressed that allows that closer aid, to help humanity help themselves...

Because of the Plejaren, so many more Earth humans are resisting the negative steriotypes of "aliens" being "invaders" seeking to control. So a closer fear-free protocol can be permitted, which would have been impossible a decade or more ago...

The Plejaren Federation is part of a greater cosmic union, known as the Galactic Federation..which in turn has higher representation, linking the 3rd density with much higher densities of lifeforms...

The Plejaren were mandated to speak about their experiences with Meier, primarily. His role is unique in that sense, as the most advanced ancient Earth Soul on earth....however, the Sirians have their own contacts among a few different types of Souls on Earth, which have a more direct genetic-family link...they are called "starseeds" and although incarnated on Earth, are not strictly linked with this planet alone, within creational laws..

This leads on to some important data:

There is a cosmic energy that can alter the genetic makeup of all human beings, including Earth humans, so that they may be released from planetary bondage...the Sirians are working with this energy to "save" Earth humanity from destruction, within Creational law, freewill parameters...

That cosmic vril (life force) emminates from the galactic core in pulses and is alluded to in contact report 220...in 1987, the year of the "harmonic convergence."

Please note that Quetzal claimed to be unaware of this EM lifeforce, in spite of Billy's reassurance that he had been briefed on the veracity of it's truth, gleaned by him from the memory banks of Henok.

Billy was stating an esoteric and scientific truism and that important truth is one that will be revealed by the Sirian GFL First Contact mission to Earth Humanity. It is one of the most significant contact reports in relation to the evolutionary destiny of Earth humans.

The Sirians have a historic duty to aid Earth human genetic correction, in a spirit of love and compassion. This will bring peace to Earth and the cosmos and allow Earth to flourish and gain membership of the Galactic Federation of Light.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_220

--Drekx Omega 09:48, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Movella said ... ==

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well done Drekx keep up the good work, very inspirational.
Looking forward to meeting my space family and all of the other 5th dimentional beings of light.

--Movella 10:36, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== MarksmanR said ... ==

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Drekx, starseeds do not exist, you are not a Sirian starseed, you are not in contact with Sirians, the Sirians are not in contact with the Plejaren and are not part of their federation, and you cannot access the storage banks.

You falsify FIGU information with your own and with false new-age and religious ideas and stories. You're either a big deliberate liar or you're delusional.

--[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 17:28, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Upon further analysis, this so called Dretz Omega, although quite accomplished in disseminating correctly many of the materials brought forth by Billy and the Plejaren and my accomplished friends here on this site, he or she FAILS to bring any more awareness or support this mission!

For one, why do someone try to DECEIVE Billy's work by using a website that depicts images of one of the most evil manifestations (Jesus Christ) created by the Giza Intelligence (New Testament) that murdered millions, if not billions of Earth humans and distorted Jmmanuel's teachings. And to further support this assumption, why do you use the religious term "SOUL" in your answers, which by Creational definition, soul DOES NOT EXIST, only the Spirit?

Dretx Omega, you should be ashamed of your attempts to discredit BEAM, the Plejaren and others by posing as some Sirian to assist Earth humans through parallel assumptions combined with subtle references and distortions, designed to sway others off course to satisfy you delusional quest of a uncontrollable EGO!

You have not addressed the last set of questions posed to you and only scratched the surface without much deeper understanding of the complexity regarding these issues, therefore, why would the Plejaren "hand off" this mission to you or the Sirians if you DO NOT understand the issues in the first place?

So, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for supporting this mission and exposing the continuing effort by others to distort and manipulate BEAM's important messages. Aloha

--Hawaiian 19:12, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Dave said ... ==

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Oops. You forgot to use a different ip address Movella, or should I say Drekx Omega. Pathetic. Check the recent changes log.

--Dave 20:16, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Terran said ... ==

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Drekx,

That's all very interesting but I didn't ask about that information.

What I asked was:

Why have the Sirians not provided the types of proofs for their representatives here to verify their authenticity as genuine contactees in a manner similar to what the Plejaren provided Billy Meier. Such as photographs, videos, sound recordings, metal samples, prophecies etc.?

Could you answer this question?

--Terran 20:37, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Interesting how the assumption is made by blind individuals posting her that the Sirians are not in contact with the Plejaren.....

Strange, since BEAM did document that Sfath received a gift from the Samanet Sirians of a scout ship...

Yes, Movella is known to me and used my computer to post her kind response...she is close...

And I keep getting accused by some here of using a website that "depicts images of one of the most evil manifestations, Jesus Christ," and I have to remind you that I'm not the site owner, but a guest writer for his site...

You are all treating the Meier material as if it were indeed a new religion and you are not applying his teachings or those of Jmmanuel, in your own lives, or on this board...

If Meier and the Pejaren wanted zombies who march in step I'm sure you lot are playing your mediocre parts very well...

Unfortunately, the Plejaren are in need of evolving consciousness humans, who can help to end the mess created here...so keep bickering as if this were a catholic debate, and let the planet sort itself out...

I see much hostility and very little wisdom demonstrated by the naysayers here...

--Drekx Omega 21:17, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx I don't think the Plejaren need us at all. They felt an obligation to make some amends for the wrong actions of their ancestors'. They assist with the evolution of many civilisations throughout the universe according to the contact notes.

Anyway, why are you posting here? Your unsubstantiated claims are quite amusing to some, annoying to others it seems and so it serves little purpose other than light entertainment and wasted evenings at the computer!

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:26, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Jamesm,

Please let me know what kind of contributions participants on this board are expected to make...to date I have seen nothing original from any of you...

Are you a mix of objectivists of the nuts and bolts school of physical proofery only...??

Some have asked for proof and I have only just started posting here recently...such unwelcoming behaviour to a visitor here...you do not strike me as enlightened, wise, knowledgeable or spiritual people, especially yourself..

So why do you post here..?? to tell us nothing other than what Meier has already told us..??

You are probably wasting your time here, sir..!

Eath humans are indeed agressive, self opinionated and small-minded when confronted with new material...they need proof straight away...did Meier provide proof straight away..?

I have also been accused of undermining Meier by expressing my truth, but what would Jmmanuel teach to those who become aware of truth from within..? To suppress it and obey external authority..??

Try thinking more, my friend..

--Drekx Omega 21:39, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx I don't want proof of the material kind from you. I don't blindly take everything Meier has written as truth either. I view it all as probably true given the huge amount of evidence backing him up; evidence of several kinds. I know I may seem aggressive sometimes and others too. There is something I like to say now again to my wife: I'm not perfect, no one is.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:47, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx you said, ''The Plejaren Federation is part of a greater cosmic union, known as the Galactic Federation..which in turn has higher representation, linking the 3rd density with much higher densities of lifeforms...''

This is new to me. Where did you obtain that info?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:50, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Dare I say it, from the Samanet Sirians, who are relatives of mine...

Look... I know this goes against the grain of what Meier was saying about him being the only contactee in the world, but really, he is not the only contactee...because he actually meant the ancient Earth spirits, of which he is the most advanced and thus his virtual unique situation and role...among them, the majority.

However, he was deliberately not told by the Plejaren of several others in Europe who do communicate with off-worlders, especially the starseeds, who incarnated more recently upon this planet, than the vast majority of diverse Earth humans...

I am not here to convert your beliefs, but sometimes it is wiser to allow flexibility, as spirit is continually taking the timelines by surprise, as consciousness is changed in the Earth population and in individuals...

I can access some data from the higher planes naturally. This does not mean I'm trying to replace Meier, because his job is unique, but we all have varying roles in this evolutionary process of spirit...degrees of access, in stages, as we grow.

--Drekx Omega 22:17, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Schantz said ... ==

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Drekx Omega,

Can you access your higher planes data for me and find out when I'll get my next hair cut and oil change?

--Schantz 22:25, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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OK Drekx, so let us consider the possibility that you're really a contactee of the Sirians. Do you have any photos we can see please? Feel free to the use the ''upload'' function at the bottom of the left-hand column. You'll need to register and login first.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:26, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Jamesm,

You know as well as I that if I did provide your site with objective proof, you would be closed down by the government "secret services" before your fingers pressed the download button...

If you recall, following the Nera Asket photo conundrum, the Plejaren decided to place a blanket ban on facial photos, only allowing those Lyran (Alena from Sater) shots, of her arm holding the laser...

For security reasons I cannot do this yet, but after First Contact is officially announced, it will be possible...

--Drekx Omega 22:44, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx how about a photo of a ship or part of a Sirian's body, excluding the face?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:07, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Can we get Alex Collier/Ralph Amagram in on this? it just feel right.

--Zameen 23:54, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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Drekx Omega, this is what Mr. Meier and Ptaah are saying about people like you. Do you think that they are liars?

Billy: Indeed, disappointing. - Everything, therefore, is nonsense and idle talk, as to the claims made by many people that they have been having contacts with extraterrestrials and would continue in such, and had and would have the opportunity to fly with them in spaceships or claim that the possibility of channelling or telepathic contacts, and so on was given.
Ptaah: This is absolutely true. - Channelling is pure nonsense, and everyone claiming to be capable of telepathy is not capable of it. In fact, it is really as you say, for in one instance only, a true contact between a human being foreign to earth and a human being of earth is given, and that is between you and us. But these events, which otherwise occurred between human beings foreign to earth and earth's human beings and are known to you, however, do not apply to any persons who are still alive, and maintain to have had contacts with human beings foreign to earth, or would still have these contacts. Yet my words are not intended for all those who were having impulse-contacts through us during the last and second last century, but it has to be mentioned, however, that they had no conscious knowledge of these impulse-contacts. The few exceptions in recent times like Anatol and Petra and so on, as well as the unique occurrence in Brazil regarding the Alpha Centauri-contact and the one in connecion with Elsa Schroeder and my daughter Semjase in Zahedan/Persia and so on, are not mentioned and moreover are known to you.
Billy This I know. But this very conversation now taking place between you and me will call many opponents to the fore, accusing us - especially me - of lying, because it could not be that only the contacts between you and me would be in accordance with the facts and truth, whereas everything else is lies, deception, imagination and illusion as well as delusion and so on. The world of UFO-believers, and UFO-fanatics and those believing in extraterrestrials will scream and howl; and especially the self-appointed specialists and experts in matters of UFOs and extraterrestrials will also come forth, and scream falsehood and deceit in the same way as UFO opponents and other self-appointed experts and specialists in this line of thought who have always maintained that as a whole everything was only deception and fraud, delusion or chimera and so on. However, it will also be the UFO-esoterics and the like-minded UFO-sectarians who climb on the same accusatory bandwagon as well as all those stuck in fantasies who believe that extraterrestrials live among human beings and would be present at any meetings and assemblies of UFO believers etc.
This is also case with the nonsense of seances where the departed are supposed to be present, or could be called to join. Completely crazy ones even claim that extraterrestrials participate in earth governments and would direct and control the destiny of earth and its humankind.
Ptaah That it will be so is certain, because truth is not only disenchanting, however, also frightening, and it shatters the Illusions, hopes, desires, imaginations and delusions and so on of many believers in UFOs. However, those believing in UFOs, and many others wish to be cheated and led into delusion and do not acknowledge the truth, just as those believing in religions and sectarians. They neither wish to see nor recognize nor acknowledge the truth, because they are caught by their belief and their illusions, which they are holding high above all truth and reality. As a rule, to free themselves of this belief is impossible, because it is equal to a hereditary disease, which needs a very long time to be healed, and can only be overcome by reason and understanding. Likewise it is with opponents, because their reason and understanding is breaking down as well, however, in a different manner than that according to the believers in regard to imagined extraterrestrials and their spaceships, as well as so-called contacts and abductions and so on. However, also opponents fall into a belief, as well as those who know everything better and those who negate, and this likewise does not let them recognize and acknowledge the truth. They are just as sick in believing as all the other believers.

Contact 424

--Sanjin 02:08, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Terran said ... ==

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Drekx,

If the earth governments and people refuse to accept the requests for regime change and mass landings, as appears to be the case. What will the GFL do in that eventuality?

--Terran 02:27, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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enough said:)

--Zameen 03:06, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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1. Accordingly to Contact Report 311, the Sirian people you claim to represent as the Samanet who gave a ship to Sfath are NOT the same as the Creator Overlords and live in a different space-time configuration.

So therefore we can conclude that the Samanet are not related to the Creator Overlords or their counter-parts the benevolent, turned malevolent ET’s that fled with the DNA manipulated warriors to Mars, Malona and Earth.

1-q. That being the case, what connection does the Samanet have with Earth humans and any assistance to them if they are no way connected to the evils done by another Sirian group living in the same space-time configuration as Earth? Other than a vague mention in Contact Report 471 regarding the arrest of the Men in Black on Mars dated 2006 by Sirian forces, what are your logical connection to Earth humans regarding assistance, since the root of degenerative issues track directly back to the Creator Overlords and their “traitor” counterparts?

2-q, you also mentioned a female ET named Taljda, of the yellow race related to the current Japanese and Chinese on Earth, what is her role in this so called “mission” you are trying to convey to us humans on Earth?

3-q, And lastly (for now), why are you not answering the set of questions I asked previously in the corrected-copy, since I have more to ask upon receiving your answers which will determine which direction it will proceed? It is a test for the validation of your evolution “awareness” in these matters that span different dimensions as well.

Contact Report 311

Billy:
Of course, one can also look at it in such a way. – Here is another question. Regarding the Sirians who at that time presented Sfath with their pear-shaped space ship: did that concern a people who, here on the Earth, is called "Nommo", and did those who provided the gift belong to the genetic manipulators?

Ptaah:
9. a people called "Nommo" is unknown to us, and indeed in our space-time configuration as well as in yours.
10. My father Sfath received his flying device as a gift from a Sirian people who are called Samanet.

Billy:
Did these people have something to do with the genetic manipulators?

Ptaah:
11. No, that is not the case.
12. With the Samanet people it deals with a people who live in a space-time configuration which is not identical with that in which the genetic manipulators live

Billy:
Does it deal then with our space-time configuration?

Ptaah:
13. No, that is not the case.

Billy:
That's clear. Understood. - I assume that those who were genetically manipulated also have nothing to do with the Samanet?

Ptaah:
17. That corresponds to the situation.
18. The Samanet are quite normal humans who have not been genetically manipulated.

Billy:
Those who were genetically manipulated, who came into the solar system together with the refugees from the ranks of the genetic manipulators, and therefore with the sympathizers of the genetically manipulated ones, were the descendants of those who had been genetically manipulated as well as descendents of those who did the genetic manipulations, or?

Ptaah:
19. that is correct.
20. The genetically manipulated descendents were descended from the eighth generation, as were the descendents of the genetic manipulators.

--Hawaiian 03:29, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Drekx, you do know Billy is also the AA of our universe and knows about all that goes on within it's space. If you keep babbling on about nonsense you might get the extended vacation on the prison planet in the next life. j/k

--Mark 03:39, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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To be bombarded by such fever, such demand for knowledge, such proof, is a sign that you do seek answers...
Obviously, the way this board's members are behaving toward me is akin to the way a food distribution team feel when they are placed among a population of starving villagers, in a drought zone...
No offense intended in that and it is natural to claw for questions, but I will need time to answer them all....

However, I must suggest to you that the Plejaren mission was a preparatory one, in so far as it was officially intended to present objective proofs to the public of the existance of ET lifeforms, including themselves, their technology, a reminder of the Creational laws and their philosophies...

The Sirian mission follows on from there and is more hands-on in it's relation to Earth evolution...as well as Earth politics and economics..

I will not provide my own photos to you, because that would simply be a repetition of Meier's good works...and not my purpose here..
What I will do, in this age of mass ownership of video cameras, internet and mobile phones, is to provide the images of actively engaged mission manouevers, placing evidence before you of the intent of the Sirians as opposed to a neutral ship dancing around a pine tree, for objective analysis alone...valid though that was, at the time.

I'll provide another of my links (I have webpages) to a blog that discusses a released video taken by military personnel during a rocket test flight, which was deliberately sabotaged by a Sirian (sphere-shaped) craft, using aetheric beam pulses...to negate the electronics in the nosecone...
This rare occasion of release to CNN was probably based on a Earth Human Elite's agenda to stoke fear in the minds of the public, but had the opposite effect on many growing in consciousness...

On this same page you will see another video of three Galactic Federation scout ships, again Sirian, flying over the New Mexico desert..I'll post that vid now, which will appear on the blog below..
Enjoy:

http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/2717/#comment-7894

--Drekx Omega 09:22, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ufofacts said ... ==

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We seem to have a wannabe prophet here. No proof to backup his claims. Spreading new age nonsense about "assention" and so fourth.

Truly there is not such thing as "assention" and truly there is no god.

If Drekx was from Sirius as he claims without a shred of proof then he would have to know about Creation and how it works to be able to travel in space many light years. Also he would know that there is no god that exists in the universe. So your information is contratictory and nonsense.

No one here is convinced by your dim wittedness, lie, delusions and beliefs. You need help, and to wash your brain out.

After 2012 when no one has assended to some higher frequency you will look a idiot. Time will show the falseness of your deeds.

--[[User:Ufofacts|Stephen Moore (User "Ufofacts")]] 13:08, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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One further point to note about the Sirian scoutships is that despite a different hull shape, and vaster size, they use similar implosion reactor technolgy as Plejaren, Arcturian, Andromedan and Orion beamships...

To provide an answer anent this technical method of flight, that suitably dovetails fairly well with current earth science vision, would be that the beam emitter at the "north pole" (top) of the craft shoots out positrons (positive electrons) which repel matter (the atmosphere) above the craft, resulting in a vacuum which draws the craft off the ground. The positively charged field of electrons are contained by the plasma foil flange that runs around the centre of the craft, once the lifting craft reaches a few feet off the ground, the implosion reactors at the base, connected to the beam emitter via a central rod, become active (as no longer earthed) and create a powerful negative electron field below the craft, as the propulsion system cuts in…the ionization field surrounding the hull than projects from the north to the south pole and this creates an electro-magnetic “bubble” which operates within it’s own gravitational field, independant of planetary gravity…

So essentially the same method of flight and propulsion, within the atmosphere...

--Drekx Omega 13:13, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ufofacts said ... ==

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Drekx.

PROOF ??? Where is it?

--[[User:Ufofacts|Stephen Moore (User "Ufofacts")]] 13:14, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Ufofacts tells us that; "truly there is not such thing as "assention" and truly there is no god."

There certainly is no such thing as "assention" but ascension will suffice and is simply a degree in planetary awareness, akin to the higher cosmic ranks that the Pejaren describe, which are above ascension and they are; “Jschwisch,” “IHWH,” “Petale” and “Arahat Athersata.”

Ascension is simply the fifth degree on Earth and any planet, prior to attaining a cosmic awareness, which you must admit, is lacking among the vast majority of earth humans, currently...

However, the creational law is evolutionary, in spite of your fears and doubts..

Learn to connect with your spirit and learn to be more confident in your self and not just your perceived "superiors."

--Drekx Omega 13:21, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Please, please, your paranoia is overwhelming you....

Have I ever mentioned the word "god" once in all my discussions with you here..??

There is a creative force and there are planes of perception we call densities, that allow ALL to attain connection with the creative source, free of any religious delusions, I might add...

Problem with your concrete science here on earth is tha it fails to recognise the existance of the implosion pole of technology and the higher plasmas within the aetheric plane, of which solid, liquid and gas are the lower three...

Proof within your narrow mindset can never sustain you....and I believe that even Meier's proof has been scorned, hated, loathed and ridiculed by "scientific experts," ver the years, like the ones you appear to speak for.

You won't become a beacon of light for your people if you cannot free yourself from their collective madness..

--Drekx Omega 13:30, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ufofacts said ... ==

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I have no fears and doubts. I have studied the Meier material and are well aware of the evolutional stages ones spirit-form goes through.

You still havent provided any PROOF of your claims?

Until then you just digging yourself a big hole.

I quate from your website "4. Are we ascending? And if so, what does this mean for people?
Yes many of us. Those who choose are ascending into the higher frequencies, as we harmonize with the rest of the universe that exists around us on planet earth. Those who do not choose to ascend will avoid the process of harmonizing with the rest of the Universe…they will likely die a physical death or simply be removed from the planet at some point. Let’s be clear, this planet is ascending into the Light of higher frequencies, and all who refuse to join her on this wonderful journey, are “getting off the bus” so to speak. However let’s be clear…it is God’s Divine Plan that includes the possibility for all of us to ascend, however God honours our freewill to experience otherwise."

http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/about/

What a load of smelly steaming bulls**t.

Creation allows every spirit-form equal "rights" to evolve. Creation does not choose between one spirit-form or the other. No one is going to be removed from the planet and no one will die because of some sort of assention. Also you spout god again here.

Now you seem to doubt Creation and you place a god above Creation and set worship upon an imaginary being.

You should read the following. I know you wont but you should

[http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/OM http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/OM]

[http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_70 http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_70]

I bid you a good day.

--[[User:Ufofacts|Stephen Moore (User "Ufofacts")]] 13:36, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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No I did not write that 2012 article which mentioned "god." It was the website owner, Dieter Braun (Red Shaman,) however, some of my articles appear there as a guest writer..that wasn't one of them...

--Drekx Omega 14:11, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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If you want to distinguish my articles from those others who may be placed in parallel, then the best thing to do is to google search agaist my name...cutting out the confusion, that way.

In Earth cultures, the term "god" is habitually used to denote the creative force or the Planetary Logos...giving this being names such as Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, etc...

Sometimes the name god is used in habit and to allow customary understanding...
What this planet really needs is a spiritual enima...as there is so much cultural confusion here, that most people spend all their time bickering about semantics...

--Drekx Omega 14:24, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Eu said ... ==

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Drekx Omega needs a straight jacket. LIAR and self deluded trying to STEAL the teachings of Billy Meier and changing it to get name and rank.
You suffer from some form of illness you LIAR Drekx Omega!!!

--Eu 14:55, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Eu amigo de Billy said ... ==

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Drekx Omega GO LEARN GERMAN LANGUAGE YOU LIAR AND DECEIVER and PSYCHOTIC LIAR!

--Eu amigo de Billy 14:58, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Eu said ... ==

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words from the book Goblet of Truth (Kelch der Wahrheit) that fits perfectly to this crazy, schizophrenic, self deluded, liar and deceiver, falsifier and distorter of the truth NAMED Drekx Omega...
Go learn German language to learn the REAL TRUTH you LIAR Drekx Omega mouth of toad...

Chapter 2
298) Seid niemals überheblich zu euren Nächsten und lebt in Bescheidenheit mit allen und mit euch selbst; strebt nicht nach Ansehen und Berühmtheit, denn sonst verfallt ihr dem Grössenwahn, der Selbstsucht und dem,
dass ihr mehr scheinen wollt, als ihr seid, wie auch der Anbetung in Unvernunft durch die andern, die sich erniedrigen, um euch zu huldigen (verherrlichen).

298) Never be haughty with your next ones, and live in modesty with everyone and with yourself; do not strive for
renown and fame, because otherwise you will fall victim to megalomania, selfishness and wanting to appear to be more than you are, as well as the worship in irrationality performed by others who bow down to pay you
homage (glorify you).

--Eu 15:02, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx omega said ... ==

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I suggest that fanatic Eu calm down a bit, breath deeply and put down the wisky bottle...it's going to your head, son...

:-) And with your anger and excitement you might suffer a heart attack, so be careful...

And try to remember that the Plejaren did not want the creation of a new religion, with Billy Meier in the role of "Pope."
The world has too many of those already...

--Drekx omega 15:24, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== EU said ... ==

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Moderators please DELETE this DREKX OMEGA crap from this website. WHAT people will think about Billy Meier when people read all this CRAP this IMBECILE, LIAR, DECEIVER AND SELF DELUDED posted here. BAN this LIAR from Future of Mankind. Besides this website is SUPPOSED to have TRUE material coming from Bily Meier not by LIARS like this schizoid Mad Drekx Omega Crap!

--EU 15:35, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

Hy EU,
please stay calm, this is not worth it......

Salome

--Neckel 15:39, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx omega said ... ==

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Yes, a very advanced wisdom initiate, no doubt about that...

--Drekx omega 15:47, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ufofacts said ... ==

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I think we should let Drekx get back to his delusions and falsifications and continue to be a charlatan.

Dont we all have better more important things to do than waste our time with another nutter who thinks he/she is something he is not.

This website surely attracts some loopy loo characters, indeed

--[[User:Ufofacts|Stephen Moore (User "Ufofacts")]] 16:05, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Dear Webmaster James,

I think this heaty debate showed us hat insults should be removed immediately, no matter of what opinion those who discuss together, are. I am especially referring to such harsh insults like i erased before from Eu towards Drekx Omega....... even deluded persons do not deserve such insults. A hard language can be applied without being insulting.....

From OM: "An injury on the body will heal with time, but a bad word/insult will remain in the psyche for the whole life."

Thank you.

Dear Drekx Omega, sorry for my last ironic comment, but this missmatch of your information with intermingeling FIGU material with your own beliefs is confusing and in my eyes not logical at all, because it contradicts itself on many places..... An advice from me: A wise one does not think and especially not say, that he is a wise one, it is rather the contrary, because he knows that he will always remain a student in modesty.......... Maybe this is your wish to become praised or adored by others, or you merely seek attention, i do not know, but if you continue this way, you will loose many friends in your surroudings...... Please be honest to yourself.

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 18:15, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I think this Drekx Omega should continue posting for awhile and not banned as yet. Moderators should also color enhanced some of his/her quotes that directly contradicts Creational teachings.

Some of which he/she eluded to like "Earth soul of Billy", "Starseeds being direct family-linked", "cosmic vril (life force) and others are all anti-creational and should be highlighted for others to see how delusional this person is.

It serves the purposes of enlightenment for others seeking the truth and this Drekx himself/herself as well, maybe some day he/she will evolve in the proper manner while still in the material self.

His/her posting are beginning to be picked apart as the Truth always prevails, I'm just waiting for responses that already has answers and will be summarized for both sides of this equation. Evolution sometimes take a mysterious path..Saalome.

--Hawaiian 20:17, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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I will no longer require to post here, as I have already completed my task of stimulating your colective growth to the real truth, rather than your blind alley of dogmatic and crystallised truth...which you base on blind obedience and compliance to a perceived authority figure...akin to a pope or priest figure...

Your spirit is your authority and no external dogma should eclipse that...whoever it is claimed that the source be.

I bid you all, farewell and goodwill...!! And I shall not return.

--Drekx Omega 20:31, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Drekx Omega,

Don't leave as yet, you still have not answered many of my questions, can't you just at least give it a shot? If not, too bad, because you had something going on the topic about "victims resolving their own degenerative issues caused by others and that the negative "links" are still there to be addressed further by the abusers".

Too bad, because it opens more questions to how these negative links by abusers can be resolved, which has inter-dimensional applications as well. At least attempt to endeavor???

True some here are real adamant in their opinions (including myself), but we all learn in the process, otherwise I will just have to summarize your statements as is for a comparative analysis. All is not lost and thanks for the "exercise", looking forward for more as it challenges the mind.

Good luck in your endeavors, maybe one day each spirit will be united at the Arahat Athersta level.

--Hawaiian 21:00, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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The Sirians are highly evolved galactic Human beings, like the Plejaren and share genetic roots with them and Earth humans, that issue from the Lyra star system...

The Sirian Star system is comprised of nine stars of different classifications…
Sirius B is where the Solar Logos is located we name “Akanowai” (place of the Great Blue Lodge.)

To name but a few actively engaged First Contact S&E Fleet Crew Sirian contacts:

Vashtar, Kalestra, Atura, Sandara & Mikala.

They all originate from Sirius B-4….that is planet “Samanet” which is the 4th planet in the Sirius B, 6-planet system…

This planet is slightly smaller than Earth and possesses one vast interlocked continent named “Sakara” (the soul of female creativity.)
Surrounding the continent of Sakara is an ocean that makes up 18% of the planetary surface area…The oxygen content in the pristine atmosphere totals 36%, so is higher than the atmosphere on Earth…

Most Sirians live within the planet, but some have dwellings upon the surface as well…
The Sirian sky maintains a constant purple hue… there are two natural moons, which are both larger than Earth’s moon.
Commander Vashtar lives in the foothills of the majestic mountain range named “Shadota” (the many fingers of Heaven.)

Vashtar is a Sirian Ascended Master who has attained the rank of “IHWH,” which is the 7th cosmic degree….also known as “Jschwjsch” and pronounced; “ish wish.”
He is a highly advanced galactic human, who stands over seven feet tall, perfectly proportioned, is well built, has an oblong head, with thick shoulder-length, golden blond hair….his eyes are blue and piercing, and he has thin lips and very “nordic” features…exuding great love and wisdom…combined with razor sharp intelligence…
By Earth standards, he appears to be in his early twenties, but it rapidly dawns on anyone communicating with him that he is actually much older in terms of knowledge and wisdom…
His actual age (for this incarnation) is 550 solar years. The average life-span for Sirians being 2000 years.

He wears either his Clan robes, which are royal purple, or he wears a special (IHWH) jump-suit, which is pale metallic blue, with gold insignia braid on each shoulder….unlike the standard Sirian white jump-suits, worn by his deputies and other officers…
He has four wives and seven children…
Earth had been under Plejaren spiritual juristriction for thousands of years and that cosmic “supervision” ended on April 24th 1994 (1 Muluc, 12 Kankin, 2 Caban) when the Sirians replaced the Plejaren in that official role….

Though unofficially, the Plejaren remain and continue their support work..
The former Plejaren Jschwjsch in effective responsibility for Earth was Ptah…and his role has been taken on by the Sirian Governing Council representative and Jschwjsch, Vashtar…now representing the Galactic Federation of Light, under the authority of Supreme Fleet Commander Atura..a past master of First Contact procedures, and I believe, more able than the Plejaren Federation at making the process work…

Sandara is Sirian and the chief organiser for the planned tours aboard the mothership, following First Contact.
She was born in the hamlet of Bregge, on the Kearonet plateau, in the central highlands of Planet Samanet’s outer continent of Sakara….

If you may remember, Samanet is the 4th planet within the Sirius B star system…
She has extensive duty experience with the S&E Fleet, and has been on duty for the last 20 earth years, aboard various ships in the Federation fleets…involved with First Contact.
She stands at a perfectly proportioned 6′ 1″, which is the case with most Sirian women, who average six inches taller than Plejara…Strikingly good looking, by Earth standards, she has a proud and sometimes haughty poise, with distinguished aquilline nose, brown-green eyes, long thick straight golden hair and appears to be 18-years of age, by Earth standards, but is actually much older, and totals 192 years…The average age of Samanet Sirians being 2000 years of physical life..
She wears either the purple and gold dresses and gowns, favoured by her clan, or she wears the standard white jump-suit, while on duty….

On the surface of Samanet there are no cities, towns or villages, at all….as part of a deliberate policy to maintain the surface, primarily for the planetary guardianship purpose of ritual….so there are vast temple complexes, only, upon the surface, as well as hamlets and small dwellings.
Most Sirians live within the planet, inner-Samanet, within the crystal cities of great splendor…which are grown, rather than built, in the conventional way…
Some Sirians, within priestly clans, seek surface dwellings as well, in order to be at hand near the temples…
There are individual dome-shaped houses, surrounded by beautiful gardens and occupied by individuals and their families…
When common work and purpose compel a closer proximity for joint ritual, within clans, and between clans, then hamlets are set up to house a special “podlet,” which Sirians call “bhada,” which is a podlet consisting of a maximum of 64 individuals….
If there is a purpose that stipulates the neccessity to reside upon the planetary surface, then the bhada is housed within a hamlet of several dome-shaped dwellings in closer proximity, than normal..
Sandara was born in such a hamlet and it’s name was Bhada Bregge..”podlet of the temple bridge.”

This data was extracted from my article at this link:

http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/drekx-omega-the-sirian-star-system/#comment-7246

--Drekx Omega 21:37, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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The information provided by Drekx should be ignored as it is entirely false.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:00, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I saw that hoax on youtube Drekx about the Guardian of Light Federation, don't fall for it. That's known as the special effects studio with proper lighting.:)

--Mark 01:12, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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This is a perfect time to re-read contact report 233:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_233
Vashtar sounds way too much like Ashtar. So Drekx, take your vashtar and shove it up your ashtar.

--Sheila 01:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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In spite of similar names, Ashtar Sheran is not the same ET as the one I described...

Glad to get you guys thinking outside of your box, though...

Keep expanding your consciousness..you'll get there eventually...

--Drekx Omega 10:04, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Dear Drekx Omega,

Sorry for what i said to you concerning Hatonn, my mistake. :-/

But i am still not of your opinion and i do not think that a 5'th Dimension exists under the form that you write on your homepage. Because my studies in environmental sciences, which are still ongoing and my interest in nature, which is much older then my membership in FIGU, tell me that all is very simple in its construction.

No offence eather, if this is your opinion i wish you good luck on your further way.

We are not a religious "believer" bunch, even if some sometimes exagerate or tend to missionize, but if it makes you happy you can see us like that. I know who i am and what i want. ;)

Salome.

Nicolas

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 13:42, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Neckel,

No that is fine, my friend....please pursue your own path and I salute you....

One day a firm bridge will link objective science with metaphysics and then Earth culture will be richer for it...

Maybe the objectve scientist could think of the fairly sound postulation of "string theory" in order to at least open the door upon discovery of the higher planes of existance...??
A state of matter has been acknowledged to exist above gaseous and that would be plasma...so a start, as there are higher states still... :-)

Kind regards, Drekx

--Drekx Omega 15:17, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Drekx, just two questions for you. Who did you get this information from and how did you receive it?

--Sheila 15:27, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Sheila,

Do you mean how do I know what I know, with regards to plasma and gaseous states of matter, or my own point in evolution..which allows me to tap the memory banks of higher planes?? It is through myself that I recieve all data...but once one does this one attracts the interest of those who seek out the seekers...

I am not at liberty to divulge my point in evolution and how I know what I know, but I sincerely hope you can know what I know, as well, at some stage...!! :-)

Sorry if this sounds fasicious it is not intended to be...

--Drekx Omega 15:38, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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Drekx Omega, I thought you are a clever individual doing great job evoking curiosity about your site in this wiki and you are just one among thousands of frauds doing what you do and claiming what you are (with no proof and only a big-mouth). But just having visited your site, I think you are in need of medical attention. A dopamine suppressant would be excellent treatment for your paranoid schizophrenia variety at this stage. Waiting longer would make you responsive only to electroconvulsive therapy.

Others, are encouraged to read [[Contact Report 257]].

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 18:12, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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Drekx: do you channel pleadians? Do you also hide behind a computer voice and use soothing words to deliver the extremely convenient evolutionary leap forward? Do you reserve the crystal evolution chambers underground in antarctica or is one waiting for each of us? I want my chamber next to George Green and Gumby.

--zameen 18:24, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Drekx, I simply asked who you got this information from. A name or something would be sufficient. Or did you just dream it up based on some information that you already knew? If you're so highly evolved how come you didn't know that you're not the only one who can access the memory banks? Just trying to determine if this "story" is one of the 9 stories out there, that we were warned against.

--Sheila 21:46, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Suv,

Just anoher reminder to all that the site is not actually mine, rather I'm a guest writer for it...so unfortunately, and I agree with you all, there are absurd religious icons and references to the frauds Haaton and Jesus and Ashtar Sheran, who has not been channeled since 1983...

As a guest, you sometimes have to mix the rough with the smooth, with a degree of tolerance...

I hope you can appreciate that I'm not a churchist devotee type, but likewise, I don't want to see the Meier material being treated like holy rit or Papal bull, either, attracting blind and devoted following, from a new breed of Earth humans...

We must all break the cycle of blind obediance to "authority norms." Only the creational laws are real, everything else is window dressing, so that is my stance...

--Drekx Omega 21:53, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Schantz said ... ==

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Drekx Omega,

You are one cool dude! I totally dig the name. You've really got it going on space brother.

Can you post where I should send my money to support you immense wisdom and profound message?

I know a genuine know it all when I see one, and I want to do whatever it takes to promote your well deserved incredible ego.

I'll be waiting for your wisdomal response. Is wisdomal a word? I'm not sure, but I bet you will know and you'll set me straight on my vocabulary and my way of thinking.

In amazement and of astonishment of your being,

Schantz

--Schantz 22:18, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Schantz,

Thanx....and I would like to say to everyone here that I do not make any money from my data, as the site my articles appear on is simply spreading the information, for the joy of service alone...the site owner (Dieter Braun) might make money, I have asked for nothing from him accept the opportunity to share my truth with the world...

--Drekx Omega 22:23, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Drekx said "I don't want to see the Meier material being treated like holy rit or Papal bull, either, attracting blind and devoted following, from a new breed of Earth humans.."
I don't see you writing about the Meier material....
Why would you think that the information you provided, could/would/should be delivered unquestioningly? Because you're testing us to see how gullible we are? Wow, what a test that was. So please provide the name of the book that you got this information from. Sure hope you didn't plagiarize anything. Would hate to see you becoming involved in a lawsuit.

--Sheila 14:40, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Hehe :)............ it is plain and utterly nonsense, there is not much else to say really.......

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 15:37, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Shiela,

No money was made by me, at all..

Truth is truth and not owned by anyone...only a limited consciousness human places material matters of this sort ahead of truths..

How many times do I have to tell you "true believers," of the Meier material, that I am a supporter of the Plejaren, if not the Earth human fanatics that use that material as some kind of big stick to smite any slight divergence with....

The universe is vast and the Plejaren are not the only visitors to Earth...

If this forum is only for those who seek to place Billy Meier in the role of a new Pope, then count me out...I'm gone.

--Drekx Omega 15:40, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Haha,

Billy as new pope this is a good one. :)) Haha I wish you good luck wise one, for the future and may you find as much adepts as possible, and may you build a new sect, and say hello to your Sirian friends from FIGU.

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 15:45, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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No comment, my silence is golden..Saalome

--Hawaiian 20:22, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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2010-08-24T19:17:56Z

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2010-08-24T02:29:00Z

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2010-08-23T18:12:41Z

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